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May 08, 2014


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Ed Cone

Really happy for the good news, Ian. Thanks for sharing it here.

The fact that you and many others can get on with your lives with health insurance coverage is a big benefit of ACA.

It's one of the stories Hagan should be telling in her ads.

Closing shot: Woman who has told real-life story of getting insurance despite a pre-existing condition and maybe going on to start her own business looks into the camera and says, "Thom Tillis wants to take all that away."


Via the NYT--

In the midst of all the turmoil in health care these days, one thing is becoming clear: No matter what kind of health plan consumers choose, they will find fewer doctors and hospitals in their network — or pay much more for the privilege of going to any provider they want.

These so-called narrow networks, featuring limited groups of providers, have made a big entrance on the newly created state insurance exchanges, where they are a common feature in many of the plans. While the sizes of the networks vary considerably, many plans now exclude at least some large hospitals or doctors’ groups. Smaller networks are also becoming more common in health care coverage offered by employers and in private Medicare Advantage plans.

Insurers, ranging from national behemoths like WellPoint, UnitedHealth and Aetna to much smaller local carriers, are fully embracing the idea, saying narrower networks are essential to controlling costs and managing care. Major players contend they can avoid the uproar that crippled a similar push in the 1990s.

“We have to break people away from the choice habit that everyone has,” said Marcus Merz, the chief executive of PreferredOne, an insurer in Golden Valley, Minn., that is owned by two health systems and a physician group. “We’re all trying to break away from this fixation on open access and broad networks.”

The TeaParty saw this coming years ago, fought for America, but lost to unAmerican Democrats.

When Democrats win America and Americans alike are diminished.

Fred Gregory

Ed, nothing to say about the situation at VA hospitals across the country. ??

Perhaps ther Prez could chime in with something like this " Eric ( Shinseki ), you're doing a heck of a job "

Fred Gregory

Now they tell us

Fred Gregory

Seventh VA office finds secret wait list — with over 200 veterans on it.

Glenn Reynolds comments: "IF THIS WERE A PRIVATE COMPANY, THE EXECUTIVES WOULD ALREADY BE UNDER INDICTMENT: But it’s government healthcare, so there’s no real accountability.

Fred Gregory


"During last year’s budget negotiations, Senate and House Republicans warned that many Obamacare enrollees would provide false information about their income in order to obtain subsidies to which they are not entitled. In response, HHS Secretary Sebelius (remember her?) promised to put in place a system through which the government would thoroughly vet the salary information submitted by applicants for coverage. That promise was a predicate — or if you’re cynical like me, a fig leaf — for the bargain Congress reached."


And from the WAPO

Federal health-care subsidies may be too high or too low for more than 1 million Americans

"The government may be paying incorrect subsidies to more than 1 million Americans for their health plans in the new federal insurance marketplace and has been unable so far to fix the errors, according to internal documents and three people familiar with the situation.

"The problem means that potentially hundreds of thousands of people are receiving bigger subsidies than they deserve..."


Fred Gregory

How VA hospitals are a government-run disaster

"The news is shocking: Patients dying on the waiting list for government-provided healthcare. But this is not a report from Canada or the British National Health Service. It’s right here in America, in the health system administered by the Department of Veterans Affairs.

"The problems first surfaced in Phoenix, where the wait to receive care at VA facilities had grown so long that 1,400 to 1,600 sick veterans were forced to wait months to see a doctor. As many as 40 veterans reportedly died because they couldn’t get the care they needed. VA administrators tried to cover up the problems by establishing secret waiting lists and falsifying reports.

"The scandal has now spread to other veteran facilities...


Fred, you are are not allowed to take a glimpse into the future of American healthcare under the ACA. Stop.

Billy Jones

Give it up Fred, you'll be back to talking about a landfill soon. ;-)

Bob Grenier

"So expanding insurance will reduce costs, as Roch suggests. Even if the previously uninsured just go to the ER more often, it'll reduce the frequency of these in-patient admissions."

Really? And it saves money?

"The Hospital Corporation of America, which has facilities in 20 states, reported a big gap in Medicaid and uninsured admissions between expansion and non-expansion states. In the four states it operates where Medicaid expanded under the ACA, the company saw a 22.3 percent growth in Medicaid admissions, compared to a 1.3 percent decline in non-expansion states.


Watch Brod try to frame the discussion away from his error by use of one or more of his typical "Yeah, but....." arguments.

Fred Grergory

Somebody around here has an "Ostrich Syndrome "

"Nobel Prize-winning economist and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman has long touted the VA system as the epitome of government-run healthcare. “Exhibit A for the advantages of government provision [of healthcare] is the veterans administration, which runs its own hospitals and clinics, and provides some of the best-quality healthcare in America at far lower cost than the private sector,” Krugman claims.

And he is right . . . at least about the VA being exhibit A for government healthcare." !!!!!


Bob, you misread Brod who was talking about the costs of uninsured admissions, "those in-patient admissions" being those of the costly uninsured. Indeed, the very next sentence from your quoted source is the comparison that affirms Brod's statement:

"The company also had a 29 percent decline in uninsured admissions in the expansion states, while non-expansion states experienced 5.9 percent growth in uninsured admissions, chief financial officer William Rutherford said."

And this, from your article, might also have given you a pretty good indication that Brod was right:

"This is generally the kind of trend, though, that hospitals expected to see under the ACA and why they're lobbying hard for the Medicaid expansion. They're getting more patients with Medicaid coverage, which reimburses at rates lower than private coverage, but still pays better than no insurance."

Just what Brod said to expect. So, now, what was that you were saying about errors?


Fred, I'm not sure the argument you are trying to make here. It seems to be that the government is no good at providing health care to our veterans so it should, what?... Stop?

Fred Grergory

No Roch. Obama says let's wait for the VA IG's report . And , unless you have been on another planet, you should know what happens to IG's that say the king is nekid.

Not long after settling into the White House, President Obama fired Gerald Walpin, the inspector general for AmeriCorps, because he had exposed a scam involving a close presidential friend. Mr. Walpin filed a report about the misuse of $847,000 in grant money by Kevin Johnson, the mayor of Sacramento, Calif. Mr. Johnson, a former NBA star, was accused of using government cash to pay “volunteers” to keep his car sparkling clean and to run personal errands. The firing of Mr. Walpin sent a clear signal to his colleagues: Investigate a friend of the president, and you’ll be looking for a new job. Many got the message.

Most recently....

Obama’s attack on the independence of inspectors general

"Other inspectors general are like the Treasury Department’s J. Russell George, whose job is in jeopardy because he uncovered facts that some prefer to keep quiet. Mr. George testified about the IRS scheme to undermine Tea Party groups, drawing the ire of two Democratic congressmen, Reps. Gerald E. Connolly of Virginia and Matt Cartwright of Pennsylvania. They filed a formal complaint with a special watchdog council that oversees the inspectors general. The congressmen questioned Mr. George’s “independence, ethics, competence and quality control” in the hopes that the council would impose sanctions.

On Wednesday, Patrick Sullivan, an assistant inspector general at the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), revealed a coordinated scheme by political appointees inside the agency to interfere with investigations..."

Lies and fraud shrivel like worms under direct sunlight...and we can't have anyone telling the truth, now, can we??


Oh, I see: Obama bad.

Bob Grenier

"Oh, I see: Obama bad."

But deleting sections of the poster's previous comment is "good", I suppose.

Keep posting, Fred.

Maybe Roch will respond by posting your personal information online, as he did to me, and Cone will defend it as "free speech", regardless of intent.


I did not post your personal information online, Bob. That's a lie of the first order. When you made a frivelous call to the cops complaining about a blogger, I linked to the police report, which contained your address--the police report and your address in it are both public information.

You can be quite a dishonest fellow at times.

Ed Cone

Thanks for the reminder, Bob: All commenters should limit excerpts of copyrighted material to a reasonable length.

Fred forgets this from time to time, but because he's my bud I edit the long clips down for him, complete with appropriate punctuation, rather than just killing the whole comment, which is the standard response.

Bob Grenier

"Bob, you misread Brod who was talking about the costs of uninsured admissions, "those in-patient admissions" being those of the costly uninsured. Indeed, the very next sentence from your quoted source is the comparison that affirms Brod's statement...."

No, Roch. You ignored the I did not post your personal information online, Bob. That's a lie of the first order. of the excerpt I provided, and failed to read the rest of the linked article.

Bob Grenier

No, Roch. You posted acess to my personal information, a direct violation of your TOS, which was pointed out to me by an attorney (NOT Spagnola) who caught it, and subsequently pointed it out to me.

Bob Grenier

"Thanks for the reminder, Bob....."

And pray tell how I reminded you of that.

Ed Cone

Bubs, you pointed out that I was editing Fred's excerpts for length, which reminded me to restate the periodic note on that topic. Thanks!


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