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Oct 12, 2012

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Hartzman

Why is there Downtown Greensboro Inc.
and Downtown Greensboro Inc. Corporation?

The Food Truck Survey is a push poll.

Can anyone say it's not a push poll and why?

The News & Record can dump on Trudy Wade for a push poll
but not DGI?

Did the GPAC task force raise the other $200,000
that Walker Sanders said was contingent on the city money?

Jim M

I was thinking the same thing about DGI & DGI Corporation.

Also, George, there are 2 surveys. I don't believe the one at http://www.gsofoodtrucks.com is a push poll. It asks questions such as which food trucks did you visit; how did you hear about it; rate the food, etc.

Anyway, what I found interesting is that Reggie Delahanty reported 200-300 people at the food trucks for lunch. Sarah Healy reported that GPAC brochures were handed out at First Friday (Oct 5) to publicize the "charrette" process.

Yet, I have been to 4 of the 12 food truck sessions and not once seen anyone handing out these brochures. I was also at First Friday from about 7:30pm - 9:30pm, between Elm/Washington and Civic Threads, yet did not see a single person handing out GPAC brochures.

Perhaps they handed them all out before 7:30pm. On the plus side, I didn't see the sidewalks littered with the brochures, so whoever received them, was holding on to them.

GPAC keeps talking about increasing awareness and attendance for the "charrette", but are missing a great opportunity to reach 200-300 people a day at the food trucks...

Hartzman

I believe these are push polls.

http://hartzman.blogspot.com/2012/04/is-gpac-task-force-using-push-poll.html

http://hartzman.blogspot.com/2012/09/is-dgi-using-push-poll-to-kill-off.html

The one to which you refer looks good.

It looks very good compared to the above, by our friends at the Greensboro Partnership and Downtown Greensboro.

The contrasts are remarkable really

Andrew Brod

Neither the survey at gsofoodtrucks.com nor the one at downtowngreensboro.net looks like a push poll to me. The big difference between the two is that the DGI questionnaire drills deeper and tries to get more information.

Push polls frame their questions to communicate a point of view and to elicit a particular response. If George wants to persuade us that the DGI survey is indeed a push poll, he should take the questions he believes are worded in a biased fashion and rewrite them to make them neutral. If there's little substantive difference between the original question and the rewritten one, no push poll. But if the rewritten questions are clearly better (in the opinion of people other than him), then he will have made his case.

My concern about these polls is not that they're push polls, but that they're unscientific polls. There's no random sampling and hence no ability to say that the survey sample is in any way a microcosm of the population. Asking for identifiers, including the respondent's connection to downtown, tries to address this, but even there the information is self-reported. The problem is that generating a proper sample costs money and that's why so few organizations do it, especially when online polling is now so cheap. Many times at UNCG we've proposed scientific surveys to potential clients, only to hear them say that they couldn't afford to do it the right way and they'd just use SurveyMonkey on their own. I'd note that you get what you pay for, but the decision had already been made.

So I don't see two push polls, but I do see two surveys that are being done on the cheap and will therefore be limited in what they can tell us about the public's perception of food trucks in downtown Greensboro.

Hartzman

"Push polls frame their questions to communicate a point of view and to elicit a particular response."

Andrew
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"Do you feel that food trucks at the edge of Downtown, would help revitalize nearby buildings?"

DGI Food Truck Survey
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Why would food trucks revitalize nearby buildings, if the buildings wouldn't have restaurants?

This is a leading question.

"A push poll is an interactive marketing technique, most commonly employed during political campaigning, in which an individual or organization attempts to influence or alter the view of respondents under the guise of conducting a poll."
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"Do you feel that food trucks at the edge of Downtown, would help revitalize nearby buildings?"

DGI Food Truck Survey
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"Push polling, which often involves the use of hypothetical questions in survey instruments, is a tactic that is designed to influence respondents’ decision making in the guise of research.

even though such questions are purely suppositional in nature, they can lead to significant changes in actual behavior.

However, post-test respondents indicated that their behavior will not change based on responding to hypothetical questions, suggesting that the contaminative effects of such questions are probably unconscious and uncontrollable."

Push Polling: The Effects of Hypothetical Questions on Decision Making
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"Do you feel that allowing food trucks in all of Downtown Greensboro will help or hurt existing Downtown restaurants?"

DGI Food Truck Survey
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"As health code inspections and monitoring of pushcarts and mobile food units is minimal at night and on the weekends, do you feel that the City or health department should assign staff to monitor mobile food units on evenings and weekends?"

DGI Food Truck Survey
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Who are you kidding Andrew?

I suppose we should re-disclose your contribution for one of the committees for the GPAC, in recommending the consultant.

In essence, I believe you are defending what you have a stake in not being labeled a part of a push poll created and disseminated by the folks you said would do a good job doing it.

Andrew Brod

I've addressed your paranoia regarding GPAC more than once. I have no stake in that, one way or another.

What's even sillier is suggesting that my tangential (at best) involvement in the GPAC process has anything to do with food trucks. Aren't food trucks the topic of this thread? Aren't the two polls in question purporting to assess public attitudes toward food trucks? What exactly is my conflict of interest regarding food trucks?

Never mind the fact that I criticized those polls myself in this very thread. But that didn't register with you because my criticism wasn't based on conspiracy!, conspiracy!, conspiracy! How boring of me, talking about statistics and reliability when I could be flinging around exciting accusations.

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