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Feb 03, 2012

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Grant

"We have been distressed at the presumption that the changes made to our funding criteria were done for political reasons or to specifically penalize Planned Parenthood. They were not."

Komen thinks me a fool.

On Dec. 2, 2011, Doug Scott, president of Life Decisions International, announced on its Facebook page that Komen was off its boycott list because it no longer was funding Planned Parenthood.

"Please keep in mind that if the Susan G. Komen Breast Cancer Foundation deserved to be included in The Boycott List, it would still be there," he wrote. "There is reason to celebrate. Just do not do it too loudly."

James

Too little, too late, too stupid.

As a marketing guy, I find it fascinating to watch the complete destruction of a brand in 48 panic-filled hours. Komen's extremist anti-abortion agenda can't be put back in the bottle. The organization is now just another ideological sideshow in the Tea Party Tempest.

polifrog

A sad retreat for the liberty of the unborn.

Of course, the facebook/twitter campaign of the unborn appears to have been hindered by both their youth and the fact that those most effected are now deceased.


michele

Who were they hoping to please by waving the white flag? You can't save half a baby.

Patrick Eakes

the definition of dipshits

Grant

Trying to keep perspective on this, including my own predilection against the Komen's Mary Kay multi-level marketing type vibe. And the fact that for every crazy, lying fundamentalist Komen's brought into its top ranks there are thousand of noble, hard-working people in the ranks not to mention the volunteers.

But it's quite amazing the depths the top brass has been willing to plumb. Like yesterday when among the lame rationalizations it threw out was that Planned Parenthood doesn't provide "full service" screenings, i.e. mammograms. According to Komen's own freaking website, clinical breast exams are the best screening practice for the younger women that PP serves and in fact mammography is discouraged for women under 40.

So aside from the fact that it would be insane for PP or any other primary care provider to purchase $25,000 machines that it wouldn't use, Komen sent out the medically misinformed message in the middle of this media s-storm that a screening isn't proper without a mammogram. This on top of the other dangerous propaganda pouring forth from Komen's new allies.

That's pretty disgusting coming from one of the the supposed champions of women's health.

Sue

I have sponsored numerous walkers/runners in Komen events but no longer. There is the Avon Breast Cancer program and my understanding is that former Komen folks are creating a nonprofit that distributes directly to service providers for women's health. Because we all know that breast cancer detection is the majority of Planned Parenthood's work (along with other women's health issues) and is the only provider for enormous numbers of women in rural areas or who cannot afford private physicians and that the 97+% stupidity was, well, stupid, I'll vote with my feet, as President Reagan advised. I wonder if poor Susan G. Komen is turning over in her grave.

There are only two kinds of women in this country. Those who have breast cancer and those who are terrified they'll get it. I'm sick of listening to men bloviate & legislate (and engage a few women to validate their blovation) about what women should do - there's a war on women and their bodies and it's taking the guise of health care.

polifrog

Yea, that explains the greater attention to breast cancer than prostate cancer provided by society.

The only sexists I've ever met have been women.

Sue

@poli How much money, time, effort & research went into erectile dysfunction medicines (which are covered by insurance as they try to deny contraceptives; yup, you guessed it: used mostly by women)?

No one's comparing breast cancer research to prostate cancer research (except you). But women have organized to fight a growing threat to women's lives (and men get breast cancer, too). Women have walked, run, organized, gotten corporate support, sponsors, and raised money because no one was doing it for them. Men need to do that for themselves - why don't you take on the job? But I am pretty sure that when there's an equally well-known prostate cancer organization, they won't deny funding to clinics who do PSA tests for men. Because PSA tests have nothing to do with anything but screening for prostate cancer. Just like breast cancer early detection and treatment has nothing to do with anything except just that - saving women's lives.

Grant

Cripes. Komen sought advice from Baghdad Boob.

Patrick Eakes

Sue +1

Sue

I miss you, Patrick.

polifrog

Erectile dysfunction medicines are a correction for a dysfunction. Is contraception a correction for a dysfunction I am unaware of?

Only a sexist can put medical correction for men on the same plain as a lifestyle choice for women.

And that lifestyle choice can be prior to conception in the form of contraception or after conception in the form of birth control. In either case it is a lifestyle choice demanded by some women based on an imagined sense of entitlement via a incredibly distorted view of equality.

Women should really restrain from demanding more rights and concessions beyond what is available to the rest of society (they are the only group in our society granted (unjustly I might add) the right to take the rights and lives of others at and for their own convenience), as stratifications in rights have served our nation poorly in the past and serves it poorly today.

Prell_Shampoo_Fan

"Women should really restrain from demanding more rights and concessions beyond what is available to the rest of society"

Hello, Mullah Mohammed Omar.

polifrog

I believe there are rules about unjustifiably outing folks here...

Roch101

"Women should really restrain from demanding more rights and concessions beyond what is available to the rest of society." Polidumbass

Yeah! What about my right to have a baby!

Prell_Shampoo_Fan

You outed yourself, Omar.

polifrog

PSF

You outed yourself, Omar.

I did not out myself as Omar.

cheripickrdumbass

You just gotta love that Roch. Fine ambassador for respectful exchange of differences of opinion, he. And practices what he preaches too!. Wouldn't you just love to take him home to Mom?

Prell_Shampoo_Fan

"I did not out myself as Omar"

True. You outed yourself as a sexist, knuckle-dragging neanderthal. Naturally, I assumed you were the nation's Taliban-equivalent. I don't apologize, but I do.

Why are you so infatuated with a woman's uterus, poli? Esp. those you don't even know? Are you that big of a sexual deviant that you care about what other folks do in their bedroom?

polifrog

Roch101, how is the "right" to kill for convenience extended to any group of any kind in America but women?

polifrog

PSF:

Why are you so infatuated with a woman's uterus, poli? Esp. those you don't even know? Are you that big of a sexual deviant that you care about what other folks do in their bedroom?

I am less infatuated with any woman's uterus than the fact that the American uterus is more deadly to Americans than Iraq, and the idea that that is okay because it's a woman's choice rather than Bush's.

Prell_Shampoo_Fan

poli, change your name to politroll. No way you're serious. No way in God's Hell, which is pretty badass (They smoke dope in Hell!).

polifrog

Wow. How did you find that, cheripickrdumbass?

You remind me that I forget more than I recall.

polifrog

PSF:

No way you're serious.

Pick any year, any month, any day and you will find more Americans died in the womb than in Iraq during any corresponding period.

I consider that serious.

Prell_Shampoo_Fan

you've convinced me, poli. i am now an ignorant fartbox. thank you. You've provided lulz for many though.

polifrog

Well, I do enjoy luring others into moments self induced schadenfreude for the amusement of others.

You got that much right.

Roch101

Dr. Hayes, did you ever get a reply from the High Point Enterprise?

Prell_Shampoo_Fan

"Dr. Hayes, did you ever get a reply from the High Point Enterprise?"

Oh wow...did he do that? Oh dear.....

Roch101

One of the cabal.

Sue

Last troll feeding. @poli, who wrote,
"Erectile dysfunction medicines are a correction for a dysfunction. Is contraception a correction for a dysfunction I am unaware of?"

Apparently, yes. Birth control pills are used by women for birth control (obviously) but also for a variety of pre-menopausal hormonal imbalances and other medical needs including acne control, PMS symptom reduction and more. Go read a book. However, ED meds aren't prescribed only (or even mostly) for a "dysfunction," if you mean a man is suffering from a disease. It's prescribed for enhanced sexual pleasure (which is just fine for those men who need it). Both medicines serve a valid purpose. But to you, it seems, women or FAMILIES who don't want more children are somehow equated to abortion, which is, unfortunately, a dog-whistle term.

You also wrote, "Women should really restrain from demanding more rights and concessions beyond what is available to the rest of society..."

OMG. What country do you live in? Women have to fight for equal pay (which they still don't have) and equal rights (which you seem unwilling to grant them) and getting the government out of their family planning decisions (which you consider wrong, but pray tell, isn't that the conservative agenda, getting the government out of our bedrooms?).

If all were equal, a man couldn't get an ED med from a pharmacist if he were past child-bearing age, if he didn't have proof of marriage, and if the pharmacist objected to sex without children as the goal of intercourse.

I'm done. Go wallow in your sexist mindset and ignore the fact that there IS a war on women's health care that is so politicized it brought down the Komen Foundation, which is nothing but a huge shandeh. (a real shame)

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