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Mar 27, 2007

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Joe Killian

Believe it or not "Morals Week" has gotten LESS crazy and deliberately offensive over the years. I remember the first year...

Joe Killian

Also:

More verifiable factual inaccuracies in that Mike Adams column that for a minute I thought it must have been a joke.

Then I remembered that that's how Adams always writes...

Ryan R.

Joe - I don't know which side of crazy you're referring to, but last night was definitely the craziest event ever... I'll get the video up sometime this evening. We've never had people take their clothes off at our events, at least

Joe Killian

Depends on your definition of crazy, I suppose -- but I'll look forward to the video.

Joe Killian

Also that should read "So many factual verifiable factual inaccuracies."

It should surprise no one that I'm back on the caffeine -- and my fingers are paying the price today...

Bubba

"So many factual verifiable factual inaccuracies."

Such as......?

Joe Killian

The list is long and embarrassing and I'm having kind of a busy day, but a good single example is his describing what Taormino's speech was about without having heard it, talked to anyone who heard it or even read a description of it. I was there and the (relatively small, as compared to then next talk) audience included not a single college Republican who could have described it to him -- or he'd have known that there was exactly one question during the Q&A about anything that could (even by the broad legal definition) be considered "safe" or any other kind of "sodomy." Taormino's actual presentation contained no such content.

He also misrepresents, inaccurately describes and at several points just makes up details about how student fee dollars were (at that point anyway) applied for and allocated at UNCG, the time-line of events and facts about the campus while leaving out information that contradicts his narrative or makes it seem less heroic. The difference between what actually happened that entire year and Adams' description of events is, to paraphrase Mark Twain, the difference between lighting and the lightning bug.

Bubba

'The list is long and embarrassing and I'm having kind of a busy day....."

But not such a busy day that you couldn't take time out to take a shot at Adams, and not too busy to write a two paragraph response to my inquiry full of generalities and short on detail.

Joe Killian

Took the shot at Adams the day before you commented. And he deserved it.

I refuted his columns when I was a student. They've always been full of things that simply aren't true and often are too cowardly to outright lie, which leads him to simply say things like "the speech was about anal sex" when someone from the audience asks an anal sex question in the last five minutes of an hour long event. This is why his column is carried by the following prestigious publications: none. People whose primary writing gigs are on partisan websites (of any political stripe) are worth every penny you pay to read them.

These days I frankly have better things to do than to go back years and request documents from the university to prove that his timeline is shamelessly invented, many of his details are distorted and some of them just invented and details that would make much of what he's describing look ridiculous and pathetic rather than heroic have been omitted entirely.


Bubba

"These days I frankly have better things to do than to go back years and request documents from the university to prove that his timeline is shamelessly invented, many of his details are distorted and some of them just invented and details that would make much of what he's describing look ridiculous and pathetic rather than heroic have been omitted entirely."

In other words, you can't back up what you said.

No big surprise here.

Ginger Bush

Yep, here we go again. Another day, another rehash.

Bubba

I'm still waiting for substantiation on his "So many factual verifiable factual inaccuracies" comment.

Looks like it's not about to come, is it?

Joe Killian

I had this fight once. I won it then. That's enough for me.

This cranky conservative professor who makes money preaching about the liberal evils of academia while never actually making a living outside of its cozy confines was so successful in his stated goal of keeping people like Tristan Taormino off of public college campuses (which kind of takes the polish off this idea he has that he's some kind of First Amendment hero, if you ask me) that she returned, packed the largest available venue on campus, attracted crowds from three states and sold a staggering number of books (two areas -- drawing large crowds and producing best-selling books -- in which Adams hasn't had quite as much success).

Adams always leaves that last part of his triumphant story out. We might have expected to see it in the conservative (online) publication he bankrolled at UNCG -- but then, it folded like a wet newspaper in less than a full school year and had its domain name taken over by a porn site. Which he also forgets to mention every time he's rolling out this yarn.

You could have read about it in The Carolinian -- the campus weekly Adams loved to trash for publishing a student-penned sex column (which he always forgot to mention WAS a sex column when telling people we published "articles" about deviant sex) while conveniently forgetting to mention that we also published and paid the campus' most prominent conservatives (and members of the College Republicans) as columnists. Never turned down a columnist - guest or regular - for their political views, but only the bravest (Jason Crawford and Melissa Westmoreland, the latter of which was the better columnist) decided to test whether the Carolinian would publish their most conservative views. We always did. Any of their friends wanted to write for us (and a few did, now and then), they were always welcome. Adams knowing that doesn't equal Adams acknowledging it -- but we never expected him to.

All of this is to say: I think I've publicly embarrassed this particular professor by trouncing his agenda, being a stronger advocate for free speech across the political spectrum and pointing out his lapses as a columnist enough for one lifetime already.

You want to go have a beer and talk about it some time, I'm up for it. Am not going to bicker about it with you anonymously any further.

Bubba

FYI.....he got a real chuckle over this thread, Joe......I'll tell you about it if we get together.

Bubba

P.S.

I hardly think I'm anonymous.

My name and my blog's name were published in your newspaper for everyone to see.

I guess you don't read the paper, huh?

Joe Killian

I meant anonymous in the sense that I can't see you and don't know you.

Am always up for a beer with anyone who wants to actually talk like people -- Adams included.

Ginger Bush

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