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Aug 29, 2010

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George Hartzman

No mention that Marlene Sanford is a lobbyist.

No mention of the stacked Taskforce that meets at the lobbyists headquarters.

No mention of the campaign contributions recieved by the Vaughans and others from landlords and TREBIC members.

Michele Forrest

The landlords I know personally who object to RUCO consider it to be an added burden. They are offering affordable housing and they take good care of their rental properties. But I'm still not clear as to how it's an added burden. The RUCO inspection is free, and if code violations are found, obviously these landlords would want to fix those anyway, because they're good landlords.

One objection I've heard is that tenants damage property and then complain to the City. But eliminating RUCO wouldn't eliminate that problem.

George, my impression from Nancy is that she's listening to people on both sides and giving consideration and thought to both. She really doesn't strike me as someone who can be "bought," and I have seen her concern for the poor (the tenants who probably benefit most from RUCO) demonstrated in action.

I think it's important to balance the needs of landlords who provide much-needed safe, affordable housing with the needs of tenants who shouldn't be put in the position of having to "police" their own housing. It seems to me that RUCO (as is) is a successful program. I would only want to see a change if a better program were to be put in place, but the draft proposals thus far do not seem to be an improvement.

George Hartzman

NANCY VAUGHAN 05/29/09 Milton S. Kern Milton Kern & Co. Developer
NANCY VAUGHAN 06/11/09 Michelle W. Porter Yost & Little Real estate
NANCY VAUGHAN 09/23/09 Amy Barakat Cook Allen Tate Real estate TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 08/15/09 Amy Barakat Cook Allen Tate Real estate TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 06/11/09 Amy Barakat Cook Allen Tate Real estate TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 06/10/09 Brad Deaton Deaton Construction Developer TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 09/15/09 William M. Kotis Kotis Properties Real estate development TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 06/15/09 Ashley Koury Vanore Koury Corp. Real estate development TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 06/02/09 Edmund W. Koury Koury Corp. Real estate development TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 06/15/09 Kelly Koury Harrill Koury Corp. Real estate development TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 06/15/09 Lisa Koury Johnson Koury Corp. Real estate development TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 06/15/09 Mo Milani Koury Corp. Real estate development TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 06/15/09 Ronald W. Mack Koury Corp. Real estate development TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 06/15/09 Stephanie Koury Craft Koury Corp. Real estate development TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 06/15/09 Stephen D. Showfety Koury Corp. Real estate development TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 09/18/09 Arthur Samet Samet Corp. Real estate development TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 06/02/09 Leslye Tuck Samet Corp. Real estate development TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 06/02/09 Marshall Tuck Samet Corp. Real estate development TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 05/27/09 Norman Samet Samet Corp. Real estate development TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 05/27/09 Sylvia Samet Samet Corp. Real estate development TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 09/11/09 Frank Auman Signature Property Group Real estate development TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 06/11/09 Frank Auman Signature Property Group Developer TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 10/05/09 Wade Jurney Wade Jurney Homes Home builder TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 09/29/09 David R. Howard Windsor Investments Real estate development TREBIC MEMBER
NANCY VAUGHAN 09/23/09 Randall R. Kaplan Capsule Group Real estate development
NANCY VAUGHAN 07/23/09 Chuck Forrester Chuck Forrester Construction LLC Construction
NANCY VAUGHAN 06/10/09 Dana S. Deaton Gallery Properties LLC Real estate
NANCY VAUGHAN 09/13/09 Kelly R. Marks ReMax Real estate
NANCY VAUGHAN 05/25/09 Jerone D. Pearson Developer

George Hartzman

Michele,

Mrs. Vaughan initiated the RUCO castration operation to create "cost savings" after voting for a swimming pool, a budget that spent more than last year as the city's revenues are falling, an Ampetheater and a VIP room.

She wants to spend whatever nessessary to spruce up the High Point Road area.

Please look at the above names and think a little about what she tends to advocate and where her campaign funds originate.

Also look at her husband's campaign disclosures, one being Dawn Cheney among others, a landlord on the RUCO Advisory board, amongst a bevy of PACs.

The Vaughans seem to be heavy into the campaign cash game. There has to be some skepticism at this point considering where the money is coming from and the positions being advocated.

Same for Perkins, Matheny, etc...

But they didn't start it.

It will be interesting to see how Mr. Perkins responds, considering how much he wants to straddle the fence on this one.

Also notice the magnitude of silence from those in the Pulpit Forum, where a list of known top violations include none other than the Reverend Cardes Brown.

George Hartzman

Don Vughan 2010 Real Estate Industry Contributors

Dawn Chaney Chaney Properties
George Carr Beacon Management
William Cassell Cassell Properties
Seth Coker Signature Properties
Ronald Fields Ronald Fields & Co
David Hagan Hagan Properties
Marc Isaacson Real Estate Development Attorney
John Jobe Jobe Properties
Robert Rapp ARAPPCO
Michael Shiftan Devcon Resources
Norman Samet Real estate-development
Sylvia Samet Real estate-development
Sandy Sandler Sandler Properties
Bruce Sandler Sandler Properties
Marshal Tuck Samet Corp
Thomas White Alliance Management
North Carolina Home Builders Association

triadwatch

On this e reader deal with news and record , maybe you can e mail the article to yourself and then use the link to see the article.I haven't tried it yet but would love to see if it works. Onto the issue at hand this fight in regards to ruco seems like it is on it's way to council and as we have seen in past where the local special interest lobbyist in trebic is way off base ie. Protest petitions we will see more coverage and once the citizens understand what is going to happen ruco should and will stay in place like it is with no compromise and I hope donna newton from neighborhood congress will fight for this till the bitter end.

Account Deleted

A+B=C

With A being the elected official, B being the lobbyist and their money and C equaling the legislation, rule or exemption the lobbyist wants.

John Tasker

While I am okay with RUCO the way it is, in fact find it very beneficial, I have to note that the contributors, TREBIC and the rest are conducting the same kind of politics available to everyone else.

Noting that the current statute is itself a compromise and the result of intense lobbying, I must also note that fairness would indicate psoting of a list of contributors assumed to be on the other side of the ones lsited previously. If they're not there, not many, or not effective, it's on them if they aren't really trying to win something.

This is just a gues, but I think in the game of chance, one must be able to follow through. It may take more than just mouthing platitudes.

I think the truth is that the number of rental housing units and landlords for which and whom RUCO is a necessity in the public interest is extremely small, more like a handfull when the total is considered.

What is the best balance - I don't know. As mentioned before, I like the ordinance as it is set up now. It works for me. But as for the politics? The ones who want to keep it as is or more intense are not playing their political cards very well and screaming out "NO" and "Down with developers" doesn't just doesn't cut it.

George Hartzman

"The ones who want to keep it as is or more intense are not playing their political cards very well and screaming out "NO" and "Down with developers" doesn't just doesn't cut it."

True.

The people who you would think would be all over this are silent.

Where is Bellamy-Small? Has she said anything? Isn't this about a lot of her constituants?

Where is Jim Kee? Oh, forgot....

Where is Skip Alston? Oh, he was one of the worst offenders.

From what I have seen so far, the defenders are all white.

Donna Newton - White

Beth McGee-Huger - White

Jordan Green - White

Me - White

Cara Michelle - White

What about the Pulpit Forum? oh yeah...

George Hartzman

"Other RUCO Task Force members include Lisa Dellinger, a TREBIC representative and residential property manager for Koury Corporation; Bobby Akin of the Greensboro Landlords Association and former owner of Reliant Properties; and Jeffrey Sims, a private landlord and a local bank employee. Sims also represents the RUCO advisory board on the task force."

Carolina Peacemaker, August 4, 2010

https://www.carolinapeacemaker.com/News/article/article.asp?NewsID=104603&sID=4&ItemSource=L


Didn't find a Carolina Peacemaker editorial.

Has anyone seen a News & Record editorial?

Robin Saul rsaul@news-record.com 373-7251

Allen Johnson ajohnson@news-record.com 373-7010

Doug Clark dgclark@news-record.com 373-7039

Ken Irons kirons@news-record.com 373-7019

You would think these guys would have something to say by now.


Steve Harrison

"If they're not there, not many, or not effective, it's on them if they aren't really trying to win something."

Sorry, but that's a false equivalency, and it (should) expose to any and all the dangers of our currently flawed campaign finance laws. Economic disparity between two opposing ideals is ignored, and dollars are considered the best gauge of "public interest".

And in the RUCO scenario, where those dollars are actually collected from people with meager means and then used against them, you're looking at a system that verges on the autocratic. That we fail to realize that fact or make anything greater than a pro forma attempt to address it is more frightening than the trend itself.

John Tasker

Sorry, but it's not a false equivalency. Perhaps it does expose flaws in the campaign laws, but then that's another political battle. We don't even know if there is an economic disparity though I will certainly agree there is a contribution disparity most probably.

The false equivalency is the statement that"dollars are collected from people with meager means and then used against them". The implication that renters (say, as a rule) have meager means is really stretching it. It's a non-equivalency also to make the assumption that changing RUCO is using dollars against the tenants. It's been changed and argued about for a few years now and every change made it a little better in my view, certainly representative enough to have debate (I'm not saying here that another change will automatically be for the better). Most good landlords I know check credit and references these days. It doesn't serve either side for someone to check into an apartment they cannot afford.

As I understand it, the key interest in changing the RUCO rules (again) is to make it tenant complaint driven. Allegedly this is to save money for the City and the apartment owners. In the latter case, I don't think the savings warrants this effort. In the former . . . we'll just have to see. As the "jury", the City Council has to rule on this after public comment, it 'ain't' a done deal yet.

triadwatch

It must be nice to have a city appointed board meet at the local lobbyist offices and also have a special interest paid lobbyist working against the average citizen and this playing is not level at all.especially in guilford and mecklenberg county where we have trebic here and they have rebic in charlotte

Steve Harrison

It's relative, John. Good landlords already spend the dollars to maintain dwellings (leaving fewer dollars for contributions?), and those renters with (more) means can more easily relocate if they're not taken care of.

Those renters lower on the socioeconomic scale are the ones who a) will feel it the most, and b) have less power to do anything about it.

George Hartzman

"The first duty of government
is to protect the powerless against the powerful."

Code of Hammurabi


Can we collectively agree
that there is something wrong with our government
if there is little to no opposition?

Is there no broad concensus that the RUCO taskforce
meeting at the office of a special interest lobbyist
who is a member of the taskforce
is a bad idea?

Would everyone agree that if RUCO is gutted,
more people will be harmed than if not?


triadwatch

agree

Ed Cone

I don't think Nancy Vaughan is for sale. It's worth noting campaign contributions, but holding them up as some sort of A-ha! evidence of influence is not especially convincing, perhaps especially with a woman who came to political prominence by standing up to protest a huge development project.

Costs to the City are a legit concern, especially at this moment.

That said, as far as I can tell -- and I'm looking at this from some distance -- RUCO is worth preserving.

John Tasker

Well, George, my main business these days is being a landlord (read maintenance man). As such, I am perfectly happy with the RUCO ordinance as it is and see no reason to change it. I think it's just where it needs to be. I see the inspection as a marketing opportunity. As an uninspected apartment vacates and is required to get an inspection, I get what amounts to a free maintenance check from a pair of trained eyes different from mine. What follows afterward is a certificate, a framed copy of which I affix to the inside of a utility closet door, which I leave open to show prospective tenants as representative of our maintenance policy.

This bit does not address the interchange we've had about influence. But on a general management basis, quite frankly, I don't understand why all landlords don't do this and concern themselves with some other issue. I figure my internal time spent cost of getting the inspection is about $100.00 and the thing is good for five years, that's $20.00 per year on an apartment that brings in thousands of dollars per year.

Ken Hill

Here is where it may end.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rct8IeklcGQ&feature=player_embedded

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