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Jul 04, 2008

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Jeffrey Sykes

"He's one of us" was his first campaign slogan in 1972.

Ed Cone

Hence my use of that particular phrase.

"He's one of us" was widely understood to be a way of pointing to the supposed otherness of Helms' opponent, Nick Galifianakis.

justcorbly

Not unexpected news about a man I wish had chosen another line of work, but my heart goes out to his family and friends.

I remember being on a Piedmont flight years ago with him from National down to RDU on a Friday evening. The flight attendants knew and fawned over him. Later, I saw him with a young blonde-haired girl, about six years old, presumably a granddaughter, at a Wendy's near RDU. Just the two of them. He fawned over her.

Jeffrey Sykes

I thought as much. I had a lot more to say, but I had planned to write part two of my review of Rob Christensen's book tomorrow, so I guess I will wait.

My best friend is working on his dissertation about the 1984 Senate race and he interviewed Hunt last week. We have been talking alot this year about that race and how his research would progress in light of Helms' declining health.

My friend is in the woods somewhere camping this week and I wonder how his research will progress now.

Jim Rosenberg

Condolences to the Helms family.

Personally, I find Sen. Helms legacy to be overwhelmingly negative. Having said that, I have never understood the outrage over this ad. It goes to the heart of a legitimate policy debate. If you favor Affirmative Action, you are obligated to deal straight-up with the precise scenario depicted in the ad. Unlike the Willy Horton ad which played on the basest offensive racial stereotypes, "Hands" was positively wonkish - taking on a live policy issue over its real-world consequences. I never understood what Harvey Gant was crying about, and wished he'd wipe away his tears and defend Affirmative Action with his own powerful depiction of men denied opportunity due to the color of their skin.

To this day, I can't understand the reaction to this ad. Affirmative Action did and does raise issues of reverse discrimination. Jesse Helms laid it on the table and we're all supposed to faint like a bunch of sissies or something? What's the big deal? Make the counterargument.

cmf

I like this quote about former Senator Helms, by former Secretary of State Madeline Albright:

"[He] was the kindest, most infuriating, politest, most aggravating and nicest politician I had to deal with in the United States Senate." (source)

I find it fitting that Helms passed on Independence Day. He is considered a "patriot" by many. Regardless of whether you agreed or disagreed with him on the issues, there's no denying his commitment to public service.

My thoughts and prayers are with his family.

Spag

Thank you Jim for raising common sense about the Helms' ads. He was unfairly labeled as race baiting for raising a legitimate policy debate that still lingers to this day.

Alan Cone Bulluck

Love him or hate him, and I doubt there was any in between, he was a North Carolina institution who made history, and will not soon be forgotten. I hate to do it but I encourage everyone to read "The Paradox of North Carolina Politics" by Rob Christensen. I was finishing it up last night and actually thought to myself that Jesse was getting a bit long in the tooth and was probably reaching "the end." Little did I know.... He was North Carolina's most famous and most polarizing senator all in one - at least in the modern era.

Alan Cone Bulluck

I shouldn't have said "I hate to do it...." What I meant was, I hate to plug something. It's a great read and I'm sure many on here have already done so.

justcorbly

Spag, that ad, viewed in isolation, may or may not be interpreted as race baiting. But, Helms was the grand master practitioner of the GOP's so-called southern strategy (not that it was confined to the South). He and his emulators knew how use to language and symbols to appeal to the base and racist sentiments of many among us. It was, and remains, race baiting at one remove. His corruptive and misleading use of the language of the American democracy, along with that of many, many others, permanently delegitimized conservatism for myself and millions of Americans.

Jeffrey Sykes

justcorbly:

That's just sweet. I guess you assume that before ole evil Jesse everything was peaches and cream and we all danced and sang happy songs in perfect harmony.

Two things I've been meaning to say, and I might as well say them here.

1. I think that liberals with no sense of history are among the most dangerous and totalitarian prone segments of society.

2. Mencken claimed that fascism would come to America carrying a Bible and wrapped in the flag. A hundred years later, I think it will come wrapped in the name of tolerance and carrying a big ole' chip on its shoulder.

justcorbly

>>"I guess you assume that before ole evil Jesse everything was peaches and cream.."

To the contrary. Jesse, however, was interested in preserving most everything that didn't merit preservation. Still, if you think fascism is no tolerance for bigotry, I'm sorry.

Spag

"Helms was the grand master practitioner of the GOP's so-called southern strategy (not that it was confined to the South)."

There was no race baiting southern strategy, but if there was, it wouldn't make sense that it was also not "confined to the South".

What you call the Southern Strategy was merely the GOP offering a home to lifelong Democrats who believed that their party had gone to far to the left and abandoned them. It was labeled the Southern Strategy because the South had previously been solidly Democratic. The idea that the only way to get these voters to vote Republican was to race bait is insulting. Most of them didn't leave the Democratic Party because of race. They left because of liberalism. Many remained Democrats but voted Republican over taxes, abortion, crime, and other issues. They were no different than many other Americans from other parts of the country who elected Republican presidents every four years.

As for Helms, he was one of those Democrats who switched parties and became a Republican. His enemy wasn't black people, but Communism and he believed that the Democrats had become too liberal and soft on Communism, and also too supportive of big government.

It's easy to label Helms as a race baiter, harder to prove it. Affirmative Action wasn't fought only in North Carolina, and if you recall it was eliminated by voters in such enlightened places like California. Are those people victims of Helms' race baiting? I don't think so.

Lenslinger

...In 1998, our paths would crossed again at Senator Lauch Faircloth's campaign headquarters in Raleigh. It was election night and the avuncular Faircloth was getting his political ass handed to him on a hundred dollar plate by the far more telegenic John Edwards. The evening began as festive, with happy families clapping (almost) in time to a banjo-playing Uncle Sam band. But as the returns came in, the room went ugly.

Soon the same pickled old ladies who'd just hours earlier toasted my lens, mouthed curses as I panned from them to the network feed of their defeat. With every update it became apparent to all that Lauch was going to have alot more time to spend with his grandkids. Smelling blood, even more camera crews arrived until the ballroom floor teemed with reporters, Republicans and other breeds of drunken fat-cat. Just when civilization threatened to collapse, a spotlight hit the stage and out rolled a gaunt and grinning Jesse Helms. The crowd began to mumble in tongues, acting in a manner I would witness one year later when another Jesse (by the name of Jackson) healed the woes of a hundred flood victims merely by showing up at their shelter. I didn't understand a damn word the marble-mouthed Helms said that night, but I credit his message with allowing me to escape unharmed...

justcorbly

Don't be silly, Spag. Richard Nixon deliberately picked up the mantle of the racist Democrats when that party saw the errors of its ways and championed the civil rights legislation of the 1960's. Beginning with Nixon, the GOP sold its soul to racists and bigots rather than stand up for the expansion and protection of American democracy.

Your assertion that people remained Democratic while they voted for Republicans is absurd. If you vote Republican, you are a Republican, regardless of what you tell the registrar. All the rhetoric about liberalism, big government, taxes, etc., etc., is just so much noise added on later in an attempt to lend an air of respectability to a political movement that was premised on the exploitation of white fear of black people. Period. End of story.

Helms didn't really believe in the Constitution. Like so many conservatives, he defined America as a place for people of a certain language, a certain culture, and a certain DNA makeup.

If sufficient numbers of white North Carolinians were not frightened by the changes taking place around them -- the expansion of American democracy -- Jesse Helms whould have been a political failure. Too bad he wasn't. He was an embarrassment to the people of North Carolina and brought shame on us all.

Jim Buie

Sam, it's not at all hard to prove that Helms was a race-baiter, blind to racism, wholly lacking in empathy and understanding for the plight of black people. He was a politician who played on racial fears and prejudices for political gain, and unlike other famous race-baiters like George Wallace, he never repudiated or asked forgiveness for his behavior. In his autobiography, published in 2005, he defended his longtime position against "forced integration", causing even sympathetic conservative reviewers like R. Emmett Tyrrell to write that Helms was wrong and that "a jolt of federal power" was essential to achieve integration.

In his 2005 book, Helms wrote of the "good ole days" of segregation when blacks and whites got along so well. Though his father as police chief in Monroe was notorious in the black community for beating up black folks, Helms could never recall a single incident of racism in the Jim Crow South that pricked his conscience, and repeatedly described the "so-called civil rights movement" as unnecessary.

He took pride in smearing Martin Luther King, calling him a communist, a man of violence and a pervert, and mounted a crusade against the King holiday.

I don't mean to demonize Helms at the time of his passing. As Ed says, he was truly "one of us." The attitudes he expressed were very popular and commonplace in North Carolina. He was a man of his times, only more outspoken than many who secretly felt the same way. Most of us have relatives who believed as Helms did. On a personal level, Helms and the people who supported him could be salt of the earth people. He was great at constituent service, for example, and had a disarming, gracious, gentlemanly, self-effacing charm about him.

But we cannot cover up or whitewash this dark side not only of Helms but of our own extended families and community histories. To pretend that there was no racism in Helms or in his political appeal is to perpetuate the blindness into the next generation.

keith

Here is what the village voice had to say, and here is the link here is the link villageidiot

JESSE HELMS FINALLY DIES

by Ward Harkavy | email: wharkavy@villagevoice.com

If we're lucky, he took some of his bitter bigotry with him.

Jesse Helms, an unrepentant supporter of unnatural causes throughout his life, died of natural causes this morning at the age of 86.

The only sign of moderation ever shown by the longtime North Carolina senator was his decision to stop saying the word "nigger" when he was likely to be quoted in public settings.

The death of Helms is just about the best birthday present the United States could wish for on July 4. Free at last — of Jesse Helms.

While the networks and most of the press will soft-pedal his virulent racism and reckless disregard for the First Amendment in his hounding of artists, foreigners and many others, Helms stayed his divisive course until the bitter end — at least until the end of his public career.

After building a reputation as a frankly speaking bigot, Helms ended his public life as a liar who whitewashed those previously bold stands.

In a 2005 review of a Helms autobiography and a Strom Thurmond biography, Michael Lind noted in the Washington Post:


Like Thurmond, Jesse Helms, a fellow Republican who served as a senator from North Carolina from 1973 until 2003, symbolized the white Southern backlash against racial integration and social liberalism.

Helms gained a political following in the 1960s as a commentator on Raleigh's WRAL-TV and the Tobacco Radio Network with his denunciations of the civil rights movement, liberalism and communism.

As a senator, he explained that he voted against Roberta Achtenberg, President Clinton's nominee for a Housing and Urban Development position, "because she's a damn lesbian."

When Helms encountered protesters during a visit to Mexico in 1986, he remarked: "All Latins are volatile people. Hence, I was not surprised at the volatile reaction."

In 1990, Helms stayed away in protest when Nelson Mandela addressed a joint session of Congress.

You would never know any of this from Helms's bland new memoir, which passes in silence over the Dixiecrats in 1948 and the civil rights revolution.
Even though America has undergone many changes since the days when the word "nigger" was freely used, it's vital for us to not ban the word. We need it, in context, to accurately record our history. Black man Randall Kennedy, author of the book Nigger, has argued that point recently in "A Note on the Word 'Nigger' ":


To paper over that term or to constantly obscure it by euphemism is to flinch from coming to grips with racial prejudice that continues to haunt the American social landscape.
Jesse Helms was such a radical that he was able to fan the embers of prejudice even when he spewed the milder N-word with malice aforethought.

In "Dr. Jim Crow," a 2003 article in the Journal of African American History about the post-World War II desegregation of Southern medical education in North Carolina, Karen Kruse Thomas noted:


During the 1950s and 1960s the [University of North Carolina's] controversial role in desegregating Southern higher education would be subject to radically differing interpretations.

To white progressives, UNC was leading the way toward harmonious race relations, while white segregationists generally subscribed to Jesse Helms's notion that UNC stood for "the University of Negroes and Communists."

Many black North Carolinians were convinced that the university would never overcome its 160-year history of excluding members of their race.
The death of Helms, particularly on Independence Day, helps.

And it's fitting that he should die during a presidential race that features young black man Barack Obama.

Whether or not Obama wins, the death of Helms and the ascendancy of people like Obama represent at least some sign of progress in America.

Brian Clarey

It's not hard to smack around Jesse Helms, particularly if you lead from the left. Although today was technically a day off for me, I scratched my editorial and did some research on the man for a proper tribute.
Yeah, from all available evidence, he didn't like the brown folks, or the buttfuckers, or the longhairs. And gleaning from all the available evidence he was kind of a dick. I don't know -- I never met the man.
But it seems to me that he feared all that was different from his own experience. And I've seen a lot of that since I moved to NC.
Whatever.
But I believe he was one of the ones who tore the Republican party from guys like Barry Goldwater, who I admire for many reasons.
He was successful. Helms, I mean.
But you know, he never actully passed any laws. And he never got even 55 percent of the vote.
Isn't that the very definition of divisive politics?
But...
Never divorced. Consistent. Dynamic. And he was good to the kids.
People are not monolithic.

Brian Clarey

Update:
My friend Dean, a Galafianakis from Durham, is in Alabama after a Tom Waits show. He's toasting the death of Helms. By the sound of it, he's not alone. Have I mentioned that I've been drinking? Because I have.
I wish I was in Alabama.

Jeffrey Sykes

*"Still, if you think fascism is no tolerance for bigotry, I'm sorry."*

jus':

That's one thing that I dislike about liberals. You seem to define things in light of your sympathy for people you perceive inferior to yourself.

Nowhere did I imply facism was intolerance for bigotry. I said facism would come in the name of tolerance and seeking to make right all the perceived past wrongs.

Your later statement shows this very trait:

*"All the rhetoric about liberalism, big government, taxes, etc., etc., is just so much noise added on later in an attempt to lend an air of respectability to a political movement that was premised on the exploitation of white fear of black people. Period. End of story."*

Do you really think that flies? This thinking is nothing more than defining an entire body of political thought through your lens of sympathy for blacks and an intent to seek recompense for their suffering.

Tell me this:

Who will seek recompense for the suffering of the family of Deborah Sykes and Eve carson?

Big L

While it saddened me greatly to hear of the passing of Senator Helms, knowing the condition he had slipped to in his retirement, it's more of a relief to hear that God had ended his suffering and called him home.

What does sadden me is that Senator Helms most likely died of a broken heart when he saw what this state is coming too. The invasion of homosexuals, illegals, and liberals is threatening to undo everything he worked so hard for, and no one appeared willing to take up his mantle and fight against them.

Godspeed Senator. The best way we can honor your memory is to get in the voting booth, find some worthless piece of trash up for vote, and slap a big fat "NO" on it, just as you would.

Ed Cone

JSykes, can you please explain your last comment (Eve Carson) and its relevance to this discussion?

DrFrankLives

Hey, Big L - I'm a liberal. And I'm doing my level best to threaten everything Helms ever fought for. You're welcome to come fight against me whenever you feel up to it, pal.

Jeffrey Sykes

Ed: What is there to explain? It is a simple question.

Are you feeling pangs of guilt?

Why don't you tell us what you think I meant? I'm sure it's predicatble.

Ed Cone

Jeff, I asked you a simple question: what is the relevance of Eve Carson's murder to this thread?

Not sure what I'm supposed to be guilty about, just curious about your remark. My question stands. Care to answer it?

DFL, aren't you a native North Carolinian? That undercuts Big L's idea that NC liberalism is the result of an invasion of outsiders. I'm a native myself. I also know a lot of gay natives, for that matter. And the man honored by your web-name, Frank Porter Graham, was part of the long progressive tradition in this state -- notable in this thread, as Jesse Helms was an operative on the famously race-baiting campaign against Graham, before going to to his career as a segregationist TV commentator.

DrFrankLives

My Mom grew up here. I was born when my Dad was in Germany in the service, and I moved here when I was two for two years and then again when I was 8. Other than two years of learnin' in heathen French-speakin' places, I've been here ever since.

Not native, but pretty darn steeped.

Jeffrey Sykes

The relevance is that liberals like justcorbly, and the thousands of others spewing bile about the Republican Party in the wake of Helms' death, spend their lives making excuses for individuals from certain classes. If we are all truly created equal, then there is no place for excuses.

Any liberal who tries to paint the entire GOP with the brush of Jesse Helms leftover segregationist mindset needs to be corrected.

Helms was right to use the Kennedy bill against Gantt in 1990, just as Republicans should use this ad against Bev Perdue and the entire Democratic legislature this fall:

"You loved your daughter. She was set to graduate from college and had her entire life in front of her.

But she was brutally murdered by two young men who should have been in prison.

Because under Democrat Mike Easley's administration, state probation officers failed in their duty to pursue probation violations against one of the killers.

It is time to stop making excuses.

When you vote this November, remember this photo. Remember who has been in charge of the state legislature for 100 years. Remember who has occupied the governor's mansion and the Attorney General's office for the last 16 years.

It is time for a change.

Send the liberals in Raleigh back home. Elect Republicans to statewide office.

We will put criminals in prison where they belong."

Jeffrey Sykes

I also dig how today's Democrats in this state love to talk about their "long progressive tradition" but refuse to admit that their monopoly on power in this state is predicated on a white supremacist campaign led by Democrats in 1898 that usurped power from a duly elected Republican administration with violence.

Oh yeah, and your same Democratic Party led by the hero Aycock is responsible for the move to disenfranchise blacks for the next 60 plus years.

Don't they still have an Aycock dinner?

Brad Krantz

I moved here in 1987, from Up There. Amazing how, for many years, people from other parts of the country would assume that EVERYONE in North Carolina voted for, supported the views of, and generally supported Jesse Helms. He overran, dominated, and tarred the reputation of this state for all the wrong reasons for way too long.

When Helms decided not to run in '02, David Broder wrote this:

As an aide to the 1950 Senate campaign of NC Rep. candidate Willis Smith, Helms reportedly helped create attack ads against Smith's opponent, including one which read "White people, wake up before it is too late. Do you want Negroes working beside you, your wife and your daughters, in your mills and factories? Frank Graham favors mingling of the races. Another ad featured photographs Helms had himself doctored to illustrate the allegation that Graham's wife had danced with a black man.

Ancient history? No. Helms remains unapologetic to this day. Forty years after the Smith campaign, Helms would in election against black opponent Harvey Gantt with another ad playing to racist white fear--the so-called "white hands ad," in which a white man's hands crumple a rejected job application while a voiceover intones "You needed that job... but they had to give it to a minority."

Disciples of Jesse Helms who learned campaign techniques at his knee included the late Lee Atwater and the very much alive Charlie Black, of John McCain fame. I'm sure that John McCain will not resort to Helms-like race-baiting. Ok, I'm sorta sure. Well, I'm not sure at all. But we can hope.

Jesse may have just decided with a man NOT ONE OF US possibly about to get elected president, it was time to move on to bigger and better things.

Ed Cone

Jeff, I haven't seen anyone make excuses for Eve Carson's killers, in this thread or elsewhere, and I still don't see the relevance to this thread.

We've discussed in another thread your contention that the Democratic Party's ugly past on racial issues somehow damns the Party today. I disagree for the most part, in that the Democratic Party (like other parties) has shifted its positions over the decades. Many of the Democratic segregationists, in fact, became Republicans, including Jesse Helms.

In the same vein, I did not refer to the long Democratic progressive tradition in this state, but to the tradition itself, which in some cases (e.g., Quaker influence) predates the modern parties by centuries.

Britt Whitmire

Brad,
Am I going to have to be the voice of reason on this board too?

You are completely discounting the FANTASTIC constituent service!

Fec

Who mentioned Howard Coble?

Spag

Ed, Jesse Helms' (often misunderstood) views on segregation were 40 years ago, but you want to tar the whole present GOP with them, while saying that Democratic sins were in the past. Really? I'll bet Obama doesn't feel that way about that Democratic hero, Bill Clinton, the first "black president" who played the race card along with his enlightened wife during this campaign. As usual, you want to have it both ways.

Brad, et al, the logical conclusion of your argument is that more than half of the people in this state are racist (including some black people) because they elected Jesse Helms in every race he ran in since 1972. I suppose that is only marginally more respectable a position than those who like to argue that any vote for a Republican is based on race, particularly in the South. No other issues like taxes or defense matters. It's a good way to rationalize Democrat defeats in national elections, but it isn't true and it is insulting to more than half of the people here. Harvey Gantt believed that people should enjoy special status because of the color of their skin, Jesse Helms didn't- yet Helms wasn't allowed to take that policy position without being called a racist while Gantt gets no heat. It's a neat little story that sounds like it could be true, but it isn't. It's sheer propaganda borne out of political correctness.

Meanwhile, voters in California- that most enlightened of states- voted to ban affirmative action several years ago. They did what Helms advocated, but are they being called racists? Similar efforts are underway in other (non Southern) states, and have already passed in a few more. But no. North Carolina isn't allowed to have a Senator campaign on such things because North Carolina is in the South, and we all know they are all racists down here. And besides, Jesse Helms is a Republican, and therefore any position he takes is automatically illegitimate.

Jim Buie

Sam, how were Helms' segregationist views, which he defended in his autobiography two years ago, "often misunderstood"?

As for your hope that Obama feels bitter about some so-called race card that Bill Clinton supposedly pulled, that simply isn't the case. Obama called Bill Clinton last week and they both issued statements saying they're excited to be working together.

What evidence do you have (other than the color of his skin) that Harvey Gantt "believed that people should enjoy special status because of the color of their skin"? In Helms' campaign against Gantt, he alleged that whites were losing jobs to blacks because of affirmative action. What evidence was there that this was occurring? Without evidence, Helms was simply playing on racial fears.

scharrison

Jesse Helms and his racist views are alive and well, as evidenced by some of the comments here.

"The invasion of homosexuals, illegals, and liberals is threatening to undo everything he worked so hard for, and no one appeared willing to take up his mantle and fight against them."

Oh they've appeared, but the majority have (thankfully) evolved past the 19th Century mentality that previously supported those viewpoints.

And as far as Eve Carson is concerned, if Abhijat Majalo's murder had been investigated with even half of the vigor and determination that her murder was, she would be alive and well today. Racism killed Eve. Not "reverse racism", just plain old racism.

Ed Cone

"Racism killed Eve." No, two thugs (allegedly) killed her.

It is true that if the cops had caught her killers after their previous murder, she'd be alive. Would that it were so.

Did the cops stint on their investigation of the first killing? I don't know that to be true -- and given the muscle of Duke, I'd be surprised that the murder of a grad student was treated lightly. And if the investigation was not productive, is there any evidence that racism was a constraining factor?

The killers killed Eve. Your wild-eyed accusation is about as useful as Sykes responding to a conversation on racism by bringing up Birth Of A Nation-worthy fears of black men attacking white women.

Kirk Ross

The Helms legacy is very visible here.
The politics of straw men vs. us lives on.

scharrison

"Wild-eyed accusation"? Thanks, Ed. The only comment of mine here you've chosen to address, and this is what I get.

And as far as your demands for proof, sometimes you have to read between the lines. A brown man kills another brown man, and it's, "Meh. Probably drugs or gang stuff."

Within a couple of days after Mahato's death, they had traced a phone call from his stolen phone to Atwater, a known associate of Lovette. Yet neither of these guys were even questioned (unless I missed something) in Majato's death until after the Eve Carson case was solved.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/2576695/

According to the arrest warrant in the Mahato case, Lovette allegedly stole a cell phone, wallet and an iPod – with a combined value of about $300 – before Mahato was shot to death inside his apartment at 1600 Anderson St.

"There was information that investigators obtained that the victim's telephone had been used … the night or early morning he was murdered," Cline said.

Investigators learned that numbers on the phone traced back to a number associated with Demario James Atwater, Cline said.

Atwater, 21, is not charged in Mahato's death, but Durham Chief Jose Lopez said Thursday police were looking to see if he might have been involved.

Ed Cone

SC, I chose to address your statement because it seems outrageous to me.

Elements of race and class run through the whole sad story, but it's not as simple as (to coin a phrase) black and white.

Certainly Carson's status at UNC, and her incarnation as an attractive young blond woman, brought visibility to her case. So did the bizarre nature of the crime.

You accuse the cops of racism in failing to solve the first case and thus complicity in Carson's murder, but you provide no evidence for this charge -- you just claim the ability to "read between the lines" and see that it's so. You simplify the identity of Majato, a Duke grad student, as a "brown man," and decide this kept the cops from acting.

This story, and its victims, deserve better than the bumper sticker politics you assign them.

Ged Maheux

Here's an oldie but a goodie from Mr. Helms: "I've been portrayed as a caveman by some. That's not true. I'm a conservative progressive, and that means I think all men are equal, be they slants, beaners or niggers." (1985)

And I couldn't resist re-posting this classic comment from some reader on CNN.com:

"If you’re a Christian, Jesse is probably in a very hot, unpleasant place. If you believe in Karma, he’s probably reborn as a poor black child in Somalia."

You reap what you sow.

scharrison

So...you're saying I don't have special powers of reasoning that allow me to ascertain the truth even though there's very little factual information available?

I don't know, Ed. That seems kind of far-fetched to me. ;)

Dave Ribar

Ged:

Sen. Helms has gone to meet his maker and discovered that she's black.

Ed Cone

Ged, I saw the slur-filled quote attributed to Helms online, but I have not seen it sourced. Until I do, I'm disinclined to believe that it is genuine.

keith

New York Times VS. Helms, part 529,876

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Ann Coulter

godspeedjessehelms

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