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Sep 20, 2007

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Roch101

"we don't want to have these guys tried in the media." -- Council Person Tom Phillips

That might carry some weight if it had been the defendants saying that release of information might harm them instead of the AG saying that release of information might help the defendants, but to my knowledge the defendants haven't expressed objections to the release, have they?

Ben Holder

Tom's insurance payment speaks volumes about his character. It will be good when he is gone!

Ben Holder

They will release David Wray's interview with RMA.

Tony Wilkins

"If you believe David Wray that he knew nothing about what was going on, then he deserved to go for being incompetent."
Not a very bright statement from Phillips.
Does Tim Bellamy "deserve to go" because he knew nothing about David Moore's alleged embezzlement?

The CA

"these guys" aren't David Wray.

Jeffrey Sykes

The more they talk, the worse they look.

The CA

What about whether Wray's predecessor's deserved to go for being deliberately blind or willful accomplices?

Ben Holder

Funny how that works.

Hinson claims he did not know that Elton Turnbull was a big time crack dealer. Hinson did not know fat Sean was a big time crack dealer. Fulmore did not know that his employee had a lengthy criminal history and carried a crack pipe. That is what excused them. They did not know.

Ben Holder

Phillips needs to come clean with his personal feelings about Wray. He hated Wray from day one before any of this happened Phillips hated Wray. I imagine he will deny that. However, he knows it is true. He hated Wray from the start.

Roch101

Phillips excuse doesn't hold water. The Duke students were able to be "tried" in the media precisely because information was kept secret, not because everything was made public.

StoneSetter

"If you believe David Wray that he knew nothing about what was going on, then he deserved to go for being incompetent."
Not a very bright statement from Phillips.
Does Tim Bellamy "deserve to go" because he knew nothing about David Moore's alleged embezzlement?

Or maybe our city council for the Project Homestead fiasco?

Bubba

"Phillips needs to come clean with his personal feelings about Wray. He hated Wray from day one before any of this happened Phillips hated Wray. I imagine he will deny that. However, he knows it is true. He hated Wray from the start."

Thankfully, like Keith Holliday, Tom Phillips will NOT be on city council in the future. We need to make sure his tag team partner, Robbie Perkins, doesn't get elected either.

There are several others who need to

Billy The Blogging Poet

Bubba,
You and I agree-- that's scary in itself.

Bubba

...go.

Fred Gregory

Open Letter To Tom Phillips:

Dear Tom,

I used to have respect for you and your service to the community. Your unfortunate comments to Ed Cone have changed all of that. How sad. It's called " sticking to your story "... " If you know what we knew " . Tom.. BS. I now know what you knew then and David Wray appears to be the rightous victim. Do you really want to go down in history as being a part of this cabal ?

"This above all: to thine own self be true, and it must follow as night the day, Thou canst not be false to any man. Farwell; my blessing season this in thee "

Character is who you are when nobody is looking. Staying true to your civic duty or self interest--ah, as Shakspeare said " And there is the rub "

waiting for answers

Fred,

As usual, you've proven yourself to be a self-righteous ass. Why not wait a while before you pass judgment? Besides, Shakespeare doesn't wear well on you.

Shameful anonymity

Um, at least he has the guts to put his name on what he believes.

The CA

"Shakespeare doesn't wear well on you"

Translation Fred: Conservatives shouldn't quote Shakespeare because they aren't supposed to be smart enough.

Fred isn't the one making an ass out of himself.

Bubba

"Why not wait a while before you pass judgment?"

Oh, you mean like the anti Wray crowd and the News and Record did at the time of Wray's firing?

Look for today's nes conference to more of the same old crap from those vested in making sure Wray stays the Bad Guy in this deal.

It's too late for them. The public is wise to their agenda now.

Ed Cone

Fred's comment glosses over the fact that we don't yet know everything the Council knows, or claims to know -- that's why people are clamoring for more information.

This has been a long, frustrating process, and the professional media has no patent on rushing to judgment. Blogs and blog commenters are pretty good at it, too.

Nine elected officials have stood behind Johnson all the way. The question of what, exactly, Wray told Johnson prior to the lockout meeting, and the relationship of those statements to known facts, remains open.

Time to clue in the public.

jc

Ed, we know that there are some bad cops still in uniform but Mitch and council refuse to do anything. We know what was in the RMA report. We know the FBI and the SBI found nothing on Wray. We know the that Mitch and Holliday painted Wray as a rascist and that was a big lie. We know a hell of a lot. Whatever it is that Phillips and Holliday know that we dont know, it is certainly not enough evidence to be indicted.

So whatever it is, I doubt it will be to the level that anyone will be shocked if they ever reveal it.

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